with charlie on health care. and by the way, when john and i came to the conference almost the same time, we worked on navajo issues and a boxing commission and native american issues i remember with tom daschle so this is a good panel but my main point is the states i think they are laboratories of bipartisanship that the federal government can learn from, and i don't know how you merge that together. maybe this institute can figure that out. >> secretaries ridge would you pick up on that? customers are practical, they have to do it. but you also have a national governors' association where you do seem to come together more than we see the members of congress. >> we are giving the response of devotee as an executive and they are having served 12 years in congress and have a great opportunity to serve as the governor for six years nine months and five days. [laughter] a house bill pointed out i think at the end of the day -- and i do want to applaud governor schwarzenegger i read the mission statement and the ins